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Author Topic: Bolt Action escalation league  (Read 258 times)
tony
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« on: January 12, 2019, 03:18:06 pm »

I’m in depending on era etc
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2019, 02:12:31 pm »

There are a few ways to do this; firstly the game is not a historical simulation & the points level should balance out late war/early war so anything goes. Secondly, we could fix it at a set period of time although that could rule people out. Thirdly, as we escalate the points, move the time period on say a year at a time?

Personally I would plump for option one as it is the most inclusive but I can work with all three with the third option potentially being the best compromise.

Thoughts please.

MartinK
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2019, 02:27:18 pm »

This could be done in 4-6 months depending on people's appetite. I'm proposing a basic 500, 750, 1,000 & 1,250 point set up. You could easily add 600 points in there, I know Rob's an advocate of that & it makes sense if people are building & painting as they go along. You could also add a bonus 1,500 point tank game at the end for anybody that wanted to build more armour.

As far as ground rules go I propose that every unit that is in at the start has to be in the list as you expand it (unless we move the years forward with the points level). The 500 points starting level will not allow any free units & any vehicles will have a maximum armour level of 7+ i.e. take the armoured car slot.

Again all thoughts gratefully accepted.

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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2019, 02:54:15 pm »

A couple of thoughts:

If we're moving rhings forward chronologically with each game, does that mean American players can't play in the opening rounds? (I know that sounds facetious - it's not, it's a genuine question).

Why are we considering limiting it to one era? Bolt Action does a great job of balancing the different eras with points values so game balance isn't an issue. Is it because of "realism" concerns? If so, will we be going further by limiting opponents to plausible historical match-ups, because even if everybody's playing mid-war Japan vs Finland doesn't do much for realism.

Are we limited to just the armoured car slot for the first battle? Because there are tanks with armour 7+ as well, especially early-war. Plus transports.
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2019, 04:51:21 pm »

Give me a good excuse to start a French foreign legion force
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2019, 05:45:26 pm »

Give me a good excuse to start a French foreign legion force
Sounds cool. Using Armies of France or the new list in The Western Desert?
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2019, 05:52:32 pm »

Hi Rob,

Good points. I put the options up to see how people are feeling as I want to set this up for maximum inclusion. I tend to agree with you as per my first option, any era will work & an early force at 500 points may have less toys but will field more men so as to negate body armour & assault rifles.  I put it as an option because I have had a specific request but as above, I want max numbers.

As far as the vehicles go I wasn't considering mandating armored car just giving an example. I think tankettes etc. are exactly what a 500 point force needs Smiley

Tony, what do you need as an excuse because I'll be happy to help!! Smiley

All thoughts & ideas are welcome at this stage.

MartinK
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2019, 08:42:59 am »

I'm up for this. Ourrah!
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2019, 03:18:31 pm »

Count me in - I'll be using British.
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2019, 05:57:07 pm »

Count me in too. British. Cheers
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2019, 10:47:59 am »

Count me in, just painted 1943 Germans, based on 19th panzer division at Kursk. But have no armoured cars only PzIV? And can just get that in 500pts with my risk if it’s lost half my army is gone? But can swop it for a truck if need be.
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2019, 11:10:15 am »

Count me in as well. Germans. Painted as late war but can do any time period.

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As far as ground rules go I propose that every unit that is in at the start has to be in the list as you expand it (unless we move the years forward with the points level).
The problem I see with this is if you take for example a light tank in the earlier games you're then stuck with it and can't take a bigger one later on.
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tony
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2019, 08:11:18 pm »

Why don’t you just let in what you can fit in your pts, restrictions spoil the game. Imo
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2019, 09:33:05 pm »

I like the idea of the limit. It makes you put a bit more thought into things rather than just min-maxing your army for the current points value.

Of course, I know some people don't like thought, on general principles. Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2019, 11:51:47 am »

Cogito ergo schtum..
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