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Title: November Gaming Day 2019
Post by: martink0646 on September 04, 2019, 06:58:23 pm
Hi All,

Is this still a thing?  If so I was thinking (let me stress thinking) about a running a Bolt Action tournament again with the twist that it is for club members only. That way people can enter a tournament without all the attendant fears of entering as the opponents will all be familiar faces.

I don't know the available date & as Nov is a v.busy month on the BA scene it would need to be early for me to do anything.

Realistically we could have a working tournament with 6 players but obviously more is better. If we can get to 12 we can ask Warlord for prize support meaning goodies for club members  :wink:

I don't know what the level of support or interest within the club will be but I think it's worth floating the idea. I'm pretty sure Dave & Justin from the Huntingdon club will be up for it along with myself & the usual faces so I don't see this as being a major stretch especially if it doesn't snow this year  :grin: 

I know Rob will have some worthwhile input on this having successfully run two previous events. Feedback wanted so all chip in......

MartinK
Title: Re: November Gaming Day 2019
Post by: Tom G on September 04, 2019, 08:16:35 pm
Quote from: martink0646 on September 04, 2019, 06:58:23 pmThat way people can enter a tournament without all the attendant fears of entering as the opponents will all be familiar faces.

Forgive my ignorance but why is this a thing so to speak? I'm genuinely curious as normally meeting new people in the hobby is a plus point of tournaments.

I am up for this though.
Title: Re: November Gaming Day 2019
Post by: Gary Martin on September 04, 2019, 10:45:12 pm
I'm interested
Title: Re: November Gaming Day 2019
Post by: Rob Farley on September 05, 2019, 01:55:10 am
Quote from: martink0646 on September 04, 2019, 06:58:23 pmIs this still a thing?
There are no pre-booked gaming days if that's what you mean. If you want to run something pick a date and the committee will book it.
Title: Re: November Gaming Day 2019
Post by: martink0646 on September 08, 2019, 10:34:06 am
Quote from: Rob Farley on September 05, 2019, 01:55:10 am
Quote from: martink0646 on September 04, 2019, 06:58:23 pmIs this still a thing?
There are no pre-booked gaming days if that's what you mean. If you want to run something pick a date and the committee will book it.

OK Rob, thanks.

MartinK
Title: Re: November Gaming Day 2019
Post by: martink0646 on September 08, 2019, 10:39:50 am
Quote from: Tom G on September 04, 2019, 08:16:35 pm
Quote from: martink0646 on September 04, 2019, 06:58:23 pmThat way people can enter a tournament without all the attendant fears of entering as the opponents will all be familiar faces.

Forgive my ignorance but why is this a thing so to speak? I'm genuinely curious as normally meeting new people in the hobby is a plus point of tournaments.

I am up for this though.

I've heard more than one person say that they wouldn't be interested in playing in tournaments. I think that it is possibly scarring from tournaments of other gaming systems or the thought of really serious, competitive play? There could be a host of other reasons admittedly.

I play a lot of tournaments (probably 17 by the end of this year) & I find them great fun...maybe because I don't take it too seriously & do not take too high a level of expectation into the event?

Anyways, if this is an easy fun introduction to tournaments for even one person then it will have been a good thing.

MartinK
Title: Re: November Gaming Day 2019
Post by: Reuben Turner on September 08, 2019, 11:23:19 am
Quote from: Tom G on September 04, 2019, 08:16:35 pmForgive my ignorance but why is this a thing so to speak? I'm genuinely curious as normally meeting new people in the hobby is a plus point of tournaments.

I am up for this though.

Power gamers that know the rules backwards and create forces that legal, but cheese.

Tournaments aren't for everyone!
Title: Re: November Gaming Day 2019
Post by: Pippa Peile on September 09, 2019, 03:16:18 pm
Quote from: martink0646 on September 08, 2019, 10:39:50 am
Quote from: Tom G on September 04, 2019, 08:16:35 pm
Quote from: martink0646 on September 04, 2019, 06:58:23 pmThat way people can enter a tournament without all the attendant fears of entering as the opponents will all be familiar faces.

Forgive my ignorance but why is this a thing so to speak? I'm genuinely curious as normally meeting new people in the hobby is a plus point of tournaments.

I am up for this though.

I've heard more than one person say that they wouldn't be interested in playing in tournaments. I think that it is possibly scarring from tournaments of other gaming systems or the thought of really serious, competitive play? There could be a host of other reasons admittedly.

I play a lot of tournaments (probably 17 by the end of this year) & I find them great fun...maybe because I don't take it too seriously & do not take too high a level of expectation into the event?

Anyways, if this is an easy fun introduction to tournaments for even one person then it will have been a good thing.

MartinK

I've said things like this in the past!
I really like bolt action and would play it more, but know that it is a game that attracts the win-above-all-else crowd and as a relatively inexperienced player that is quite daunting. Very happy to play games that I don't know as well but it is no fun when you don't get a chance to do anything or learn anything because your opponent's sole objective is to wipe you off the table as quickly as possible.

It's not a problem for me playing against non-pwc members, but personally, I would be unlikely to play a competitive tournament either in or out of the club. However, I do appreciate that a lot of club members enjoy the competitive environment.
Title: Re: November Gaming Day 2019
Post by: Rob Farley on September 10, 2019, 01:06:00 am
The general Bolt Action tournament scene has got a lot more 'competitive' over the last couple of years (since the release of 2nd edition), to the point where it really is a win-at-all-costs kind of atmosphere.

Personally, I put it down to the fact that Warlord have put the Betts brothers in charge of their official events. Those guys always organised some ultra-competitive events but now it's permeated down through the rest of the tournament scene to the point where you can only do well if you're prepared to run with min-maxed lists that sap the fun from the game.
Title: Re: November Gaming Day 2019
Post by: martink0646 on September 20, 2019, 07:42:57 pm
That's why I wanted to keep it in house. I don't really see this as being competitive, just a chance to play 3 games in a day against 3 different people. I would suggest that any prize support we may or may not get should probably be handed out on a raffle basis or best painted, best theme, best sportsman etc.  We could even not list the results so no one would know who won as it is irrelevant.

I agree with Rob partly about the rise of competitive gaming but it is impossible to stop people wanting to win a game as that is the whole idea. Although if people are rewarded for the theme of their army or their painting skill winning becomes 'somewhat' secondary.

I play a lot of tournaments & I go to meet new people & look at some great (and not so great) armies & to play a number of games in a controlled environment & that is the thrill for me personally.

Anyway, I would still like to explore a gaming day where a number of us could get together & play 3 games of BA.

MartinK
Title: Re: November Gaming Day 2019
Post by: Grahame on September 21, 2019, 10:39:20 am
I support keeping it in house and not actually use the word tournament at all! A bolt action day themed as a mini campaign eg linked scenarios would work well although that could be an issue if we don't have a balance of axis vs allies. Quite happy to have a winning side. Alternatively could have teams of three or four e.g. Brits or yanks or Russians which compete against each other.
Grahame
Title: Re: November Gaming Day 2019
Post by: martink0646 on September 21, 2019, 02:40:58 pm
Hi Grahame,

That would mirror the previous all-day games we've had & the there didn't seem to be much appetite for it as the last one only had 4 or 5 of us. Rob put in a lot of effort for only a few of us showing up.

Knowing how wargamers are notoriously...'individual', I thought an 'event' where you bring the army you most want to play & that's all you have to think about would be easier.

I am all for a campaign day as I've really enjoyed the last two, I'm just not sure the support is there for it or anything come to that as this & the previous thread haven't had a huge response, certainly not enough to do anything.

By the way, with regards to the name I agree. It probably shouldn't be called a tournament.

MartinK