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Title: Saga campaign
Post by: Andy Mellor on November 13, 2018, 03:53:46 pm
Yes interested, ive got the original but will I need to put saga 2 on Christmas list?


Title: Campaigns - 2019
Post by: Carl Fisher on November 13, 2018, 04:09:08 pm
Yes we will be using version 2. Will need core rule book plus Viking Age supplement.


Title: Campaigns - 2019
Post by: Shawn Comer on November 13, 2018, 05:55:50 pm
As I mentioned in the discussion last night, I would definitely be interested in doing a campaign. I think it might be fun to have some sort of territorial control map or the like and if you win a battle/raid, you could get control of the territory which would add a point to your army or allow you to take a mercenary unit from that territories army list perhaps. We would have to work out details to ensure some balance, etc., but I think that would add some depth and enjoyability vs. just doing a round robin type tournament or something.


Title: Campaigns - 2019
Post by: Grahame on November 20, 2018, 06:40:05 pm
Count me in - I agree about territory and using a map for this campaign and basing it in Britain.
Grahame


Title: Campaigns - 2019
Post by: Carl Fisher on November 20, 2018, 10:04:43 pm
I think I have found a suitable map, will try to print it off to share.


Title: Campaigns - 2019
Post by: colinabrett on November 21, 2018, 09:39:00 am
Hi Carl,

I'd like to join in the Saga campaign please? If I'm a good boy, Santa will bring me Age of Vikings for Xmas.  ;D

Colin


Title: Campaigns - 2019
Post by: Andy Miller on November 21, 2018, 09:24:09 pm
Please count me in, now I'm over 50 I can join in with SAGA???
Andy


Title: Campaigns - 2019
Post by: Andrew Beer on December 06, 2018, 04:54:17 am
I'd be up for this, I've ordered the rules.
Is anyone up for playing a practice game?

Andrew


Title: Campaigns - 2019
Post by: Grahame on December 06, 2018, 03:14:03 pm
hi Andrew - I'll give you a game. What were you thinking of using? I can lend you the appropriate board & dice if needed. If you get in touch via my home email we can sort something out.
Grahame


Title: Campaigns - 2019
Post by: Andrew Beer on December 14, 2018, 06:46:51 pm
Yes we will be using version 2. Will need core rule book plus Viking Age supplement.

Which supplement is this, code number would be helpful, please
?


Title: Campaigns - 2019
Post by: Carl Fisher on December 14, 2018, 07:11:37 pm
Proposed Saga campaign.

More details to follow.

Suggest limiting to Viking age, and located in the British Isles and near continent.

So no Romans or Rus Princes.

Anyone interested?


Links to Griping Beast web site:

SAGA Rule book - Edition 2 (https://www.grippingbeast.co.uk/SRB20_SAGA_Rule_
Book_New_Edition--product--5540.html)

SAGA Viking Age Supplement (https://www.grippingbeast.co.uk/SRB21_SAGA_Age_of_Vikings_Supplement_--product--5541.html)


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Carl Fisher on January 10, 2019, 08:53:04 am
Those who were originally interested:

Andy Beer
Andy Mellor
Andy Miller
Colin Brett
Grahame Middleton
Rob Farley
Shawn Corner
Tom G

Looking to start in March depending on which week it is alloted and run for 6 months.

There will be a map, and territories will be allotted once we know all players.

We will also be using the Saga Book of Battles for additional material.

All games will be 6 points basic.

A base warband will need to be of 6 points, no Legendary Heroes or Units, No Mercenaries, no Swords for Hire.

However War Banners, Bards, Priests and Personal Champions are allowed.

Relics and Artefacts cannot be taken, but these will be awarded as rewards to successful Warlords.

We will be tracking success in the campaign, using Warlord Experience, which will be a modified version of that in the Book of Battles.

As the campaign proceeds, Swords for Hire, and Legendary Units will also become available as rewards.

Other than any rewards, the Warband cannot vary in composition from the base Warband.

To allow for some flexibility, please create a list of 8 points of units from which you can select 6 for each game.

This list need only show what unit type is selected. Actual equipment selection can be done on the day, including (but not exclusively), Mounted/Unmounted, Heavy Weapons, Crossbows, Bow/Spear, where options exist for a unit in the relevant list.

Also as well as rewards for success, there will be penalties for failure which may reduce your ability to select units, or equipment in successive games.

For example units may not be available, or weapon options will be restricted if units have suffered badly.

Rules for this are still to be codified!

So if you are interested please add to this Topic.

There is probably space for between 6 and 12 players.

Note games will not need to be played on the specific date, and opponents and senario will be announced in advance.





Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Rob Farley on January 10, 2019, 01:40:20 pm
Since equipment selection can vary from game to game, presumably this means unit sizes don't have to be the same for each game?


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Carl Fisher on January 10, 2019, 01:50:33 pm
Since equipment selection can vary from game to game, presumably this means unit sizes don't have to be the same for each game?

Yes unit size can also be decided on the day, as long as the unit is allowed by the rules.


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Tom G on January 12, 2019, 02:43:22 am
In.


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Rob Farley on January 13, 2019, 08:23:11 pm
Just out of interest, are Jomsvikings permitted for this or would they be considered too remote?


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Carl Fisher on January 13, 2019, 10:39:22 pm
Just out of interest, are Jomsvikings permitted for this or would they be considered too remote?

Have boat will travel. So yes, I just assume s bunch of hardened Vikings who have come to see what they can pillage.

Really only The Last Romans, and Pagan Rus that don't have a part to play.


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Rob Farley on January 13, 2019, 10:50:42 pm
Cool. I may have to reconsider my plans, I like the idea of an army that blackmails the enemy into giving them bonuses.  ;D


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Grahame on January 14, 2019, 03:33:06 pm
I'm in and will be using Normans. Bretons are also included in this list so would I be allowed to field a Breton force in some games?
Grahame


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Carl Fisher on January 14, 2019, 05:43:13 pm
I'm in and will be using Normans. Bretons are also included in this list so would I be allowed to field a Breton force in some games?
Grahame

In this case you must choose to be Norman or Breton, for the campaign.


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: colinabrett on January 15, 2019, 05:23:54 pm
I'm thinking of using Anglo-Danes, so I can mix and match the figures I have. Is this legit for the time period?

Colin


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Carl Fisher on January 15, 2019, 05:49:51 pm
I'm thinking of using Anglo-Danes, so I can mix and match the figures I have. Is this legit for the time period?

Colin

Yes these will be allowed!


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Carl Fisher on February 19, 2019, 02:14:40 pm
First round will be April 1st! Apt!

What will need is names and warbands by Friday March 22nd.

There will be six games, scenarios will be published two weeks before.

Warband details will need to include a named Warlord (if you forget this I will provide Faction linked humorous names), Faction, and 8 points of units.

Games will be played with 6pts.

So for example

Player: Fred Smith
Warlord: Ulfric Squint-Eye
Faction: Viking
Points: 3pts Hearthguard, 1pt Berserkers, 2pts Warriors, 2pts Levy.

More details to follow!



Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Andy Miller on February 20, 2019, 10:43:11 am
Player: Andy Miller
Warlord: Redwald the unsteady (no one mention his drink problem or he gets very tetchy)
Faction: Anglo Danes
Points: 3pts Hearthguard, 3pts Warriors, 2pts Levy.


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Shawn Comer on February 20, 2019, 05:22:19 pm
Player: Shawn Comer
Warlord: Odd Skjaldulfsson
Faction: Viking
Points: 3pts Hearthguard, 1pt Berserkers, 3pts Warriors, 1pts Levy


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Grahame on February 21, 2019, 01:24:17 pm
Player: Grahame Middleton
Warlord: William de Warrene
Faction: Normans
Points: Heathguard 4 Warriors 2 Levy 2


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Andy Mellor on February 25, 2019, 11:55:56 am
Player:  Andy Mellor
Warlord:  Arthgal Cu Cymerwr
Faction:  Strathclyde Welsh
Points:  3pts Heathguard, 5 pts Warriors


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: colinabrett on February 25, 2019, 12:22:00 pm
Player: Colin Brett
Warlord: Bronson (son of the dark man)
Faction: Anglo-Saxon
Points: Hearthguard 3, Warriors 3, Levy 2


Title: Re: Saga campaign - Campaign Rules
Post by: Carl Fisher on March 11, 2019, 12:55:48 pm
Attached is a first draft of the Campaign Rules, please take a look, and let me know if there are any obvious problems, or anything you think can be improved.

Version 2.

I have added the rules for Experience (26/03)


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Grahame on March 11, 2019, 01:42:37 pm
William de Warenne was given about 20 manors in Norfolk by Duke William so can I be based in East Anglia on the map please.
Grahame


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Carl Fisher on March 11, 2019, 02:10:41 pm
William de Warenne was given about 20 manors in Norfolk by Duke William so can I be based in East Anglia on the map please.
Grahame

In early 1067 you might find it difficult to convince the locals of that.


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Mike Whitaker on March 11, 2019, 02:45:39 pm
NB I won't be playing but for scenario planning be aware that I own a bunch of sub-Roman buildings, most of a Saxon village and will have 3D print files for a ;large abbey. Also the club owns the BIG GB/4Ground Saxon Hall.

A week's notice for any of the above would be nice though.


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Carl Fisher on March 16, 2019, 11:49:50 am
First round will be April 1st! Apt!

What will need is names and warbands by Friday March 22nd.

There will be six games, scenarios will be published two weeks before.

Warband details will need to include a named Warlord (if you forget this I will provide Faction linked humorous names), Faction, and 8 points of units.

Games will be played with 6pts.

So for example

Player: Fred Smith
Warlord: Ulfric Squint-Eye
Faction: Viking
Points: 3pts Hearthguard, 1pt Berserkers, 2pts Warriors, 2pts Levy.

More details to follow!



Just a reminder, I need your lists by this coming Friday to allow me to sort out round One due 01/04/2019.

My list:

Player: Carl Fisher
Warlord: Styrbjörn the Strong
Faction: Jomsviking
Points: 4pts Hearthguard, 4pts Warriors

I note we currently have an odd number of players (including me).

So I will fill in to ensure games are played on the campaign night, so no one goes without a game.


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: colinabrett on March 16, 2019, 10:41:17 pm
Hi Carl,

I'm playing Anglo-Saxons. How far north can I be based, please? Obviously, I'd like to be based in Bernicia or Northumbria, if they settled that far. Failing that, around Oxford would be great!

Thanks,
Colin

PS: that's a really nice map in your PDF. How did you make it? Because I might have to steal it  ;D

PPS: Is the Book of Battles required for each player?


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Tom G on March 18, 2019, 12:21:22 am
Carl,

Just for clarity I am playing in the campaign I have just not chosen Irish or other yet.

I will have a list to you by Friday.


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Andrew Beer on March 18, 2019, 07:31:48 am
I'll be fielding Welsh.

Andrew


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Rob Farley on March 20, 2019, 03:40:07 am
Decision made

Player: Rob Farley
Warlord: Henri le Bâtard
Faction: Norman
Points: 3pts Hearthguard, 3pts Warriors, 2pts Levy


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Carl Fisher on March 20, 2019, 08:28:31 am
Current list of players

Andy Beer - Welsh
Andy Mellor - Strathclyde Welsh
Andy Miller - Anglo-Danes
Carl Fisher - Jomsvikings
Colin Brett - Anglo-saxons
Grahame Middleton - Normans
Rob Farley - Normans
Shawn Comer - Vikings
Tom G - Irish????

Is that everyone?

Any queries on the campaign rules?



Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Andrew Beer on March 22, 2019, 07:09:56 am
Player: Andrew Beer
Warlord: Andreas Dewi
Faction: Welsh
Points: 2pts Hearthguard, 4pts Warriors, 2pts Levy


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Tom G on March 25, 2019, 02:32:33 am
Player: Tom
Warlord: ?
Faction: Irish
Points: 3pts Hearthguard 3pts Warriors, 2pts Levy


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Carl Fisher on March 26, 2019, 10:19:51 am
The map has now been divided up for the start of the campaign.

Each player has three territories to defend as follows:

Andy Beer - Welsh : Gwynedd; Powys; Deheubarth
Andy Mellor - Strathclyde Welsh : Strathclyde; Galloway; Argyll
Andy Miller - Anglo-Danes : Northumbria; Westmorland; Cumbria
Carl Fisher - Jomsvikings : None!
Colin Brett - Anglo-saxons : Wessex; Devon; Leicester
Grahame Middleton - Normans : Essex ; Kent; Sussex
Rob Farley - Normans : Normandy; Avranchin; Brittany
Shawn Comer - Vikings : Egdafylki; Rygjafylki; Hordafylki
Tom G - Irish : Meath; Oriel; Leinster


This should leave plenty of Territories to raid and even conquer.

First matches are as follows:

Grahame vs Andy Miller
Rob vs Collin
Andy B vs Tom
Shawn vs Andy Mellor

If anyone can't play on Monday then the Jomsvikings will replace them.


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Carl Fisher on March 26, 2019, 10:25:42 am
Player: Tom
Warlord: ?
Faction: Irish
Points: 3pts Hearthguard 3pts Warriors, 2pts Levy

So they will be lead by

Diarmait I'llost?


Title: Re: Saga campaign - Campaign Rules
Post by: Carl Fisher on March 26, 2019, 03:43:08 pm
Attached is a first draft of the Campaign Rules, please take a look, and let me know if there are any obvious problems, or anything you think can be improved.

Version 2.

I have added the rules for Experience (26/03)


See earlier post - I have updated the Campaign Rules to include Warlord Experience.


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Andy Mellor on April 02, 2019, 09:17:16 am
Carl a question about talents.
The first step in Hunting "your warlord is now equipped with a bow" could I have an amendment to this? As it stands at the moment, my mounted warlord with javelin would become dismounted with a bow? Not an improvement.
Could this either be a composite bow or bow? Or "your warlord maybe equipped with a bow"?


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Carl Fisher on April 02, 2019, 09:24:44 am
Carl a question about talents.
The first step in Hunting "your warlord is now equipped with a bow" could I have an amendment to this? As it stands at the moment, my mounted warlord with javelin would become dismounted with a bow? Not an improvement.
Could this either be a composite bow or bow? Or maybe equipped with a bow?

Sorry no. This trait really only applies to an unmounted warlord. To allow composite would be far too powerful.

Also composite bow does not sit well with Conquest era.

Note also if your warlord does not have the option to be on foot, then this trait cannot be used.

Obviously if your warlord can choose mtd or foot, then when you set up you can deploy as either on foot (with bow and trait) or mtd  (ignoring the trait).



Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Carl Fisher on April 02, 2019, 09:33:16 am
Thanks to everyone who took part last night.

I have taken a quick look at the results forms, corrected one, as a result you all have experience to spend:

Rob - 5
Andy Mellor - 5
Grahame - 4
Andy B - 4
Andy Miller - 3
Tom - 3
Collin - 3

So you can all choose a level 1 trait for the next game.

We had two winners - Andy Mellor and Rob, who will both have 7 PT warbands next time

Collin and Shawn lost so can choose a Relic/Artifact for next time.

The rest were draws, better luck(?) next time.

Rob now has conquered Cornwall for Normans and Andy Mellor has expanded the Strathclyde kingdom into Fife.

Full placings and results to follow.




Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Carl Fisher on April 02, 2019, 03:13:55 pm
So results after round one.

1 - Rob
2 - Andy Mellor
3= Grahame
3= Andy B
5= Andy Miller
5= Tom
7 - Shawn
8 - Collin



Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Rob Farley on April 02, 2019, 03:27:25 pm
Collin and Shawn lost so can choose a Relic/Artifact for next time.

The rest were draws, better luck(?) next time.
Is this right? It's the opposite way round in the campaign rules.


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Carl Fisher on April 02, 2019, 03:34:38 pm
Collin and Shawn lost so can choose a Relic/Artifact for next time.

The rest were draws, better luck(?) next time.
Is this right? It's the opposite way round in the campaign rules.

You are correct, my bad.

So should have read:

Grahame, Andy Miller, Andy B, Tom were draws so can choose a Relic/Artifact for the next round.

Colin and Shawn lost, so better luck next time.

Not sure what I was thinking!


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Rob Farley on April 02, 2019, 03:42:54 pm
And to clarify, the extra point that Andy and I have available needs to be spent on swords for hire or a legendary warlord?


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Carl Fisher on April 02, 2019, 04:49:04 pm
And to clarify, the extra point that Andy and I have available needs to be spent on swords for hire or a legendary warlord?

Correct!

Obviously a legendary warlord would replace your normal warlord.


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Andy Miller on April 03, 2019, 11:17:37 pm
I'd like a piece of the true cross please! The badger can look after it.
Andy


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Grahame on April 04, 2019, 02:29:18 pm
I shall now be riding Champion the Wonder Horse - not sure how that translates into Norman French....
Grahame


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Rob Farley on April 04, 2019, 03:02:18 pm
I shall now be riding Champion the Wonder Horse - not sure how that translates into Norman French....
Grahame
Champion le cheval merveille


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Andy Miller on April 04, 2019, 11:47:21 pm
I never really excelled at french, but isn't that a hairy mushroom? Champignon cheveux


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Andrew Beer on April 15, 2019, 08:08:20 pm
Hi, Unfortunately due to medical grounds I will have to exit this campaign, sorry Carl.


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Carl Fisher on April 16, 2019, 06:47:48 am
Hi, Unfortunately due to medical grounds I will have to exit this campaign, sorry Carl.

Sorry to hear that.

Hope all goes well with you health.

If your situation improves do let me know, and you can jump back in at anytime.


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Andrew Beer on April 16, 2019, 04:54:14 pm
Thank u :-)


Title: Re: Saga campaign
Post by: Mike Whitaker on April 16, 2019, 07:47:56 pm
Thank u :-)
Anything we can do, please do let us know.