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Title: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Grahame on October 16, 2018, 12:06:19 pm
Hammerhead 2019 - First Saturday in March - March 2nd- fingers crossed that the beast from the east doesn't come back!
Please start thinking about ideas for games - we have a reputation to uphold. I would hope that we can make a decision by the end of the year to give plenty of time for playtesting & building etc. I have a couple of ideas but am keen to hear others.
Grahame
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Daniel Phillips on October 16, 2018, 12:26:36 pm
The Battle of Castle Itter - The strangest battle of WWII.

Troops of the 23rd Tank Battalion of the 12th Armored Division of the US XXI Corps led by Captain John C. "Jack" Lee, Jr., a number of Wehrmacht soldiers led by Major Josef "Sepp" Gangl, SS-Hauptsturmf├╝hrer Kurt-Siegfried Schrader, and recently freed French prisoners of war defended Castle Itter against an attacking force from the 17th SS Panzergrenadier Division until relief from the American 142nd Infantry Regiment of the 36th Division of XXI Corps arrived.

The French prisoners included former prime ministers, generals and a tennis star. It may have been the only battle in the war in which Americans and Germans fought side-by-side. Popular accounts of the battle have called it the strangest battle of World War II.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_Castle_Itter

We'd need 1 Sherman, a squad of Heer, a US army squad, some civilians with German guns and the attacking SS unit.

I can provide a platoons worth of SS. Rob, do have suitable figures for the armed prisoners in you resistance army that we could use? The US and Heer stuff should be easy.

Just need Andy to build the Schloss Itter in 28mm.
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Mike Whitaker on October 16, 2018, 01:28:36 pm
Definitely on my list of games to do sometime, so yes.
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Grahame on October 17, 2018, 10:01:55 am
Dan - that's a great scenario and would be an  excellent Bolt Action action but feel that it is probably more suited to a show like Partizan or Salute as a demo game. Hammerhead needs a game that can be over within an hour with a defined end point or objective. As an example - Skirmish at Stilton is not a suitable Hammerhead game [even though the public can join in] because it is open ended but can the Romans escape the ambush would be appropriate as it is clear if you have been successful.
Grahame
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Daniel Phillips on October 17, 2018, 10:36:26 am
I think if we do it right it will work fine as a participation game. It does have a defined end point- To win the defenders need to hold out until the 142nd Infantry Regiment turn up, at which point the game ends as the SS will be forced to withdraw. We just need to put a 1 hour time limit on it and keep the turns flowing.
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Andy Miller on October 17, 2018, 01:12:34 pm
So just a medieval castle you need then?
Andy
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Mike Whitaker on October 17, 2018, 01:17:59 pm
..on top of a hill overlooking a tree filled moat with a bridge across it.
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Chris Davies on October 17, 2018, 01:38:51 pm
Warlord do two sets of partisan figures, totalling 14. assorted weapons!
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Rob Farley on October 17, 2018, 02:06:01 pm
Quote from: Chris Davies on October 17, 2018, 01:38:51 pm
Warlord do two sets of partisan figures, totalling 14. assorted weapons!

Those are some of the ones I've got.
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Grahame on October 17, 2018, 03:48:58 pm
Were there any particular incidents within this fight that we could focus on? - we may only need part of the castle and fewer figures - could consider Op Squad rather than BA. I still think we need some kind of objective to achieve - other than survive till the yanks get there-otherwise it just becomes a bunch of figures shooting at each other - even if they are an odd set of allies.
Grahame
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Mike Whitaker on October 17, 2018, 04:04:44 pm
I'd almost be inclined to suggest the Universal Man-With-A-Rifle Club Skirmish Rules (aka Dead's Army).
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Grahame on October 17, 2018, 04:13:49 pm
I agree with Mike - always better to use homegrown rules rather than a commercial set as it implies more creativity and effort has gone into the game. Just had a look at the photo of the castle and the gatehouse looks like it could be done but the rest of the castle would have to be a backdrop.
Grahame
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Chris Davies on October 17, 2018, 06:02:32 pm
Some idle thoughts from an idle fellow...
Possibly attacking forces know of secret tunnel into castle which defenders have to discover and block/blow up? use cards/dice to randomise?
Also defenders have radio link to relieving force who are aware of secret tunnel and give instructions as to location with variable/poor reception?
Saboteur among Germans? Kidnap politician as bargaining tool?
Game time is limited (by arrival of US troops) say 45 minutes?
Backdrops available maybe from aquarium suppliers?
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Grahame on October 25, 2018, 03:52:01 pm
Battle of Castle Itter now booked into Hammerhead. We should look at the whole story and pick one or two incidents to replay eg Lee's rescue mission meeting SS setting up a road block rather than trying to build the whole of Castle Itter. The outer wall and gatehouse could feature with the single Sherman parked outside if we do the attack of the SS.
Grahame
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Chris Davies on October 25, 2018, 04:49:13 pm
Looking at picture of gatehouse, should be relatively simple to make.  Foamcard and stone effect paper should work -have been doing something similar for GOR today!
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Mike Whitaker on October 25, 2018, 04:50:51 pm
..or failing that I can probably 3D print it using the Winterfall castle components I have.

Mr. Miller and I will have a discussion about it at some point.
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Andy Miller on October 26, 2018, 10:05:55 pm
Hmmm,
It'll need some though and a few chats with those concerned, but I'm happy to do some/ all of the build of the structure. If others are happy with the finer detailing etc that's great. I love a challenge.
I'd love to see the random human effect we had in the cube again, but slicker and easier to work. Trapdoors? Indiana Jones style rolling boulder? My creative juices are already making me moist !!!!!
Andy
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Carl Fisher on December 06, 2018, 08:23:25 am
Saw this on Kickstarter!

Castle Itter - The Strangest Battle of WWII, via @Kickstarter (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/11606594/castle-itter-the-strangest-battle-of-wwii)
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Carl Fisher on January 21, 2019, 08:06:36 pm
I can help.
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Mike Whitaker on January 21, 2019, 09:26:23 pm
Me too
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Rob Farley on January 21, 2019, 10:59:47 pm
Happy to help if someone can provide a lift.
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Carl Fisher on January 23, 2019, 08:35:40 pm
Quote from: Rob Farley on January 21, 2019, 10:59:47 pm
Happy to help if someone can provide a lift.


I am sure either Mike or I will be coming past from Werrington.

We can discuss nearer the time.
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Andy Miller on January 25, 2019, 08:42:27 pm
I had some leave to use up, so will be available for the show. Car with big boot, lifts etc :)
Already on the scenery, should be able to bring the basics across on 4 Feb.
Andy
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Mike Whitaker on January 28, 2019, 09:18:37 pm
I'll ba available.
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Adrian_Barnes on February 18, 2019, 07:51:10 am
I can help and provide a lift if needed
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Andy Miller on February 20, 2019, 10:21:41 am
Dan,
I have a Corgi Kubelwagen of the right scale. Currently in Sandy colour for DAK, but undergoing paint job to grey.
Andy
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Grahame on February 25, 2019, 03:03:35 pm
The doors are open to set from 7.00 - we are in the main building over towards the refreshments. Games should be set up by 9.30 and I am aiming to get for 8.00ish - with two tables to set up we will probably need the time. There is a floor plan on the Hammerhead site.
Grahame
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Andy Miller on February 27, 2019, 04:26:28 pm
Picking up Mike at 07:30hrs , Carl and Rob in succession afterwards.

I have and am bringing
2x Wermacht squads (multiple spares and extras) combination of MG42, MP40 and rifles, composition to be decided.
2x US infantry squads (multiple spares and extras) combination of BARs, Thompsons and rifles, composition to be decided
1x Kubelwagen
1x SdKfz 251 halftrack for first game
1x Sherman
1x Castle Gate House

What I have and will bring just in case:
1x German mortar squad on a base
1x PAK40 and crew, as stand in for the "88" if we don't get one
1x German "SS" style officer (he has a monocle so must be SS ?)

Anything else we need?
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Daniel Phillips on February 27, 2019, 07:24:38 pm
We need a U.S. .30 cal MG. reading through the battle report and it seems that most of the Sherman crew fought dismounted (the .30 cal was the tanks hull mg that was setup in the above the gate house).
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Mike Whitaker on February 27, 2019, 10:31:16 pm
I will bring the banner (Andy, don't let me forget :D) and some 28mm sandbags if you still need them?
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Mike Whitaker on February 27, 2019, 10:32:22 pm
Who's bringing the 88?
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Daniel Phillips on February 28, 2019, 02:29:36 am
I'm borrowing one from Gary.

What we still need is a .30 cal MMG with 2 crew.
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Andy Miller on February 28, 2019, 08:09:08 am
Don't have one and can't get hold of one either.
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Gary Martin on February 28, 2019, 10:42:39 am
Quote from: Daniel Phillips on February 28, 2019, 02:29:36 am
I'm borrowing one from Gary.

What we still need is a .30 cal MMG with 2 crew.

I have a 30 cal with US Airborne crew
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Daniel Phillips on February 28, 2019, 01:19:17 pm
Quote from: Gary Martin on February 28, 2019, 10:42:39 am
Quote from: Daniel Phillips on February 28, 2019, 02:29:36 am
I'm borrowing one from Gary.

What we still need is a .30 cal MMG with 2 crew.

I have a 30 cal with US Airborne crew

Great, thanks.
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Daniel Phillips on February 28, 2019, 01:55:37 pm
Who provided the German truck for the first game?
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Mike Whitaker on February 28, 2019, 02:37:24 pm
Does Rob now have a definitive list of partizans to bring?
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Daniel Phillips on February 28, 2019, 02:53:42 pm
Quote from: Mike Whitaker on February 28, 2019, 02:37:24 pm
Does Rob now have a definitive list of partizans to bring?

Yes.
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Rob Farley on February 28, 2019, 03:33:29 pm
Quote from: Daniel Phillips on February 28, 2019, 02:53:42 pm
Quote from: Mike Whitaker on February 28, 2019, 02:37:24 pm
Does Rob now have a definitive list of partizans to bring?

Yes.

Not really, but close enough. Will be erring on the side of caution.
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Andy Miller on February 28, 2019, 04:05:54 pm
German truck? sorry not me and no idea who?
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Carl Fisher on March 01, 2019, 08:07:23 pm
Andy, Mike

I am going down with a cold!

So I won't be coming tomorrow. Sorry.

If I deal better layer, may come on my own, but...

Sorry.

Carl
Title: Re: Hammerhead 2019
Post by: Grahame on March 02, 2019, 07:18:26 pm
Thanks to all those who came and helped - as usual we put on a good show.
Grahame